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Disaster/Survival Preparedness Essentials => DRV (disaster response vehicle) => Topic started by: T.j. on February 24, 2014, 10:04:16 pm

Title: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: T.j. on February 24, 2014, 10:04:16 pm

Some of the equipment and supplies needed for the DRV. This list will be updated as things are either donated or purchased. Obviously the list is incomplete but it is left this way for you as members to add as you think it might be a good idea for this vehicle. All suggestions are welcomed and will be reviewed for function and available space. Thanks Everyone

- MRE/Emergency Food Ration
- Emergency Water Pouches/Cases of Water
- Emergency Blanket
- Multi-Use Warmers
- Waterproof Matches
- Lightsticks/Glow Sticks
- Plastic Bags/Ziplock
- Fire Extinguisher (ie co, water, drychem, afff)
- Shovels
- Sanbags

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Dave on February 24, 2014, 10:24:32 pm

If you dont have already you may want to consider adding:

Gloves (work type)
Gloves (medical/safety)
Flashlights
Batteries
Socks (various sizes)
Road Flares
Traffic Cones
Gas Shut Off Wrench and Lock out ties
Tarps
Duct Tape
Pop Up Canopy (might not be practical in limited space)

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Tommy WQRC499 on February 25, 2014, 06:35:37 am

i like this! keep it coming!

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Dave on February 25, 2014, 06:14:20 pm

I know other people have ideas..............  Now is your chance

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Tommy WQRC499 on February 25, 2014, 06:19:55 pm

Quote from: Dave on February 25, 2014, 06:14:20 pm

I know other people have ideas..............  Now is your chance

I agree, speak up everyone.. The storage space on the DRV is not huge, we need to make sure that what goes on are useful items. The more input the better. :-)

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: allen WQTD895 on February 25, 2014, 06:47:35 pm

some other ideas

generator
inverter
solar panel on roof
telescoping gmrs antenna
rack of ht radios for field work
charging station for cell phones and ht radios
gmrs repeater- could you use the old one?
gps

its a start
Allen WQTD895

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Tommy WQRC499 on February 25, 2014, 07:41:29 pm

Quote from: allen WQTD895 on February 25, 2014, 06:47:35 pm

some other ideas

generator
inverter
solar panel on roof
telescoping gmrs antenna
rack of ht radios for field work
charging station for cell phones and ht radios
gmrs repeater- could you use the old one?
gps

its a start
Allen WQTD895

Good stuff! we do have a nice inverter for it but it is not installed yet... i think one of those small 2 stroke gens is a great idea.. like a small 1000w... Great ideas allen...

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: allen WQTD895 on February 25, 2014, 07:50:33 pm

we can get a 900 watt 2 stroke at harbor freight tool for $ 85.00

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Tommy WQRC499 on February 25, 2014, 08:45:30 pm

Quote from: allen WQTD895 on February 25, 2014, 07:50:33 pm

we can get a 900 watt 2 stroke at harbor freight tool for $ 85.00

Thats the one i was thinking of.

Title: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: vinnyg16 on February 25, 2014, 08:52:12 pm

If you going to use it for radio or electronics.  You should get a ups.   Electronics will need clean electric.  I bought two of them.l last year.  I used one. When I went to use the other it was doa.   The warranty ended so I can't return it.   If anyone does electronic repair.  I would be willing to donate it the club. 


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Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Tommy WQRC499 on February 25, 2014, 08:55:46 pm

Quote from: vinnyg16 on February 25, 2014, 08:52:12 pm

If you going to use it for radio or electronics.  You should get a ups.   Electronics will need clean electric.  I bought two of them.l last year.  I used one. When I went to use the other it was doa.   The warranty ended so I can't return it.   If anyone does electronic repair.  I would be willing to donate it the club. 


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The ups is DOA?

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Dave on February 25, 2014, 09:04:09 pm

Quote from: vinnyg16 on February 25, 2014, 08:52:12 pm

If you going to use it for radio or electronics.  You should get a ups.   Electronics will need clean electric.  I bought two of them.l last year.  I used one. When I went to use the other it was doa.   The warranty ended so I can't return it.   If anyone does electronic repair.  I would be willing to donate it the club. 


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FYI some models need a functional battery to even turn on.  It may just be a dead battery from sitting.  If you can try swapping batteries between the units you can see if it works.

BE VERY CAREFUL IF YOUR MODEL REQUIRES YOU TO OPEN THE UNIT EXPOSING HIGH VOLTAGE.  UPS CAN STORE A CHARGE INTERNALLY.

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: WRAI475 on February 25, 2014, 09:35:51 pm

Regarding the Generator, the two cycle ones are good little generators, just make sure you get the one that also has the 8 Amp DC output, good for charging and maintaining batteries in a pinch.  Harbor freight has two models, it is usually the one without the DC outlet that they put on sale.  My 2 cents. 

Title: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: vinnyg16 on February 25, 2014, 09:36:56 pm

Ya it's doa. I tried the other battery. So it's not the battery.  It was a refurbished.  I'm hoping it's just a bad switch or something. 


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Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Dave on February 25, 2014, 09:48:36 pm

Quote from: vinnyg16 on February 25, 2014, 09:36:56 pm

Ya it's doa. I tried the other battery. So it's not the battery.  It was a refurbished.  I'm hoping it's just a bad switch or something. 


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What is the brand and model number?

Title: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: vinnyg16 on February 25, 2014, 10:42:58 pm

Cyber power cp850avrlcd


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Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Kevin WQRE722 on February 25, 2014, 10:52:09 pm

Quote from: Tommy WQRC499 on February 25, 2014, 08:45:30 pm

Quote from: allen WQTD895 on February 25, 2014, 07:50:33 pm

we can get a 900 watt 2 stroke at harbor freight tool for $ 85.00

Thats the one i was thinking of.

the only problem with getting stuff from harbor freight is most of it is over rated, and the quality is just not there. id rather wait and maybe raise up the money and get a Honda 2000 generator/inverter they are supper quiet and very reliable. plus they produce clean power that would be great for charging stations and sensitive electronics.

Title: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: vinnyg16 on February 25, 2014, 11:39:49 pm

I vote for the honda


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Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Joey 810 on February 25, 2014, 11:59:52 pm

Ok, everyone chip in $20 to put towards it... +1 on the Honda !!

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: WRAI475 on February 26, 2014, 08:14:55 am

Quote from: Joey WQSY810 on February 25, 2014, 11:59:52 pm

Ok, everyone chip in $20 to put towards it... +1 on the Honda !!

So what is the application for the generator specifically.  Does anyone actually have any experience with what is needed at a temporary headquarters for an extended period of time and know what items are a priority.  If I was going camping and had a bunch of extra money I would go for a Honda, a great and quiet generator.   But for a battery charger it is overkill and a waste of money. 

I have owned, used, lent out and given away as presents a few of these generators.  They are rock solid, work great and are the best deal for $85 you can get.  The one I have now is over 15 years old.  I carried it on my boat to use when dockside electric was not available and keep my batteries charged and my appliances running.  It got put to use through several storms and never missed a beat, nor did any of the ones out there that I know of. 

So in my humble opinion it better to buy the Honda for yourself so that the DRV does not have come bail you out. 

Title: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: vinnyg16 on February 26, 2014, 08:47:38 am

Bill is right!   

1 identify the issue or goal
2 make a list of requirement.   
3 look at possible solutions
4 decide what makes most sense. 

Sometimes we jump before looking.  I'm guilty of it!


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Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: WRAI475 on February 26, 2014, 09:12:24 am

Quote from: vinnyg16 on February 26, 2014, 08:47:38 am

Bill is right!   

1 identify the issue or goal
2 make a list of requirement.   
3 look at possible solutions
4 decide what makes most sense. 

Sometimes we jump before looking.  I'm guilty of it!


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Very well put Vinny.  Survival 101, maintain your resources as long as you can.  Money is a resource.  If you guys just go with the "got to have it cause I hear its the best"  attitude that will deplete that resource very quickly. 

Title: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Dave on February 26, 2014, 12:27:08 pm

Like I said in the chat box last night. I am used to a spec then a BOM and schematic for a project like this.   But this is kind of informal.  Just don't do what the govt does.  That's how govt surplus and deficits are created at the same time ;)


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Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Dave on February 28, 2014, 10:26:35 am

Quote from: vinnyg16 on February 25, 2014, 10:42:58 pm

Cyber power cp850avrlcd


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I asked a friend in our IT department at work that does the repairs to see if he could find any info on known problems with that model.  He could not find anything. 

I have a bunch of the larger units that Costco sold for a while.  So far very reliable.  Unfortunately you may have a lemon.

Sorry I tried.

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Tommy WQRC499 on February 28, 2014, 01:22:36 pm

It has come to MY attention that some members think that the DRV will be a Emergency response vehicle.. THAT IS FALSE, we are simply trying to build a functional Disaster response vehicle to aid effected areas and residents , not necessarily on the front line of a disaster but not far away either. The goal is to assist the community not be a group of vigilantes. we can accomplish this goal by having the items and ideas contained in this post to help residents, to give them power to charge a phone, to give them gloves to clean up debris, give them access (email via mesh hopefully) to reach out to loved ones and let them know they are ok, to print out some documents, grab a blanket, and maybe help them clear their yard or throw out the damaged items with shovels or saws.. To lend a hand.. Im starting to get the vibe that a few may think that we will be blasting to a disaster yellow lights flashing, and someones head out the window making siren sounds. thats not the case. This entire club/organization/group (however one will refer) was created solely on the lack of reliable communications during and after Sandy and i think we now have a system (repeater) in place that solved that issue. The DRV is a vehicle that we can use to help those that need it and also promote the group. We urge ALL members to get involved with CERT, or ARES, Or even to volunteer with local FD or AUX PD. Knowledge is power, knowing what to do during a disaster or emergency is VERY important. The admins/owners hope that as a group we can get involved or affiliated with CERT or like group, and that one day the DRV may be of service to them for communications, or anything else it will capable of. again i welcome and ask any memebrs who have questions or comments to direct them to me so we can discuss them. We do plan on having organized meets, field day type things, activities etc...If you want to directly be involved with the building of the DRV reach out to me, we simply dont have the means to make it a "group" project. But if all continues to progress "group" projects and activities will be in the future (once mother nature decides to ease up on us). Anyway, ill just add that this entire thing is new to us, some of us have a lot of experience regarding certain things and some of us dont. please be patient and reach out to us if you have ideas, concerns, or questions related to anything on the forum/drv/repeater. We are a very laid back bunch of guys and are just trying to make this the best it can be for everyone..

73's
Tommy WQRC499
Admin / Co-Owner

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Dave on March 03, 2014, 08:49:20 am

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Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: ghfdtruckie on May 01, 2014, 09:47:44 am

Road flares is a must seatbelt cutter and fire extinguisher are safety items.   I have a mini roof tower that im never going to use if you think it will benefit the drv its yours.

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Kevin WQRE722 on May 02, 2014, 01:03:50 am

Quote from: ghfdtruckie on May 01, 2014, 09:47:44 am

Road flares is a must seatbelt cutter and fire extinguisher are safety items.   I have a mini roof tower that im never going to use if you think it will benefit the drv its yours.

I think we have a seatbelt cutter, but road flares and fire extinguishers are a must and are needed, and I am interested in this mini tower you speak of, can you post a picture so we can see what it looks like.

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Tommy WQRC499 on May 02, 2014, 09:19:33 am

Quote from: ghfdtruckie on May 01, 2014, 09:47:44 am

Road flares is a must seatbelt cutter and fire extinguisher are safety items.   I have a mini roof tower that im never going to use if you think it will benefit the drv its yours.

Maybe its something we can mount to the back bumper? im not sure what it is but it may help with operations when the mobile repeater is set up.

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Ron WQTP202 on June 03, 2014, 07:16:38 am

Do you guys have a genorator?

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: T.j. on June 03, 2014, 07:54:10 pm

Negative on the generator. Still looking at options and investing in the repeater system has slowed purchasing materials for the drv recently. 

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Ron WQTP202 on June 03, 2014, 08:09:52 pm

Ok tks

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: gdavis316 on July 24, 2014, 08:34:46 am

Well you do need a portable repeater on a different frequency, just in case the oher goes down....telescoping pole with maybe a comet gmrs basr antenna.  A scanner to to listen to public safety, and a high power mobile for simplex operation, covering all bands or a stack of radios covering both ham and commercial.  You can tell i like radios. 
What lessons did we learn from the movie lone survivor?  Having good comms can make a difference.

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: ipfd320 on September 04, 2014, 08:46:12 pm

I,m Going Thru some Clean Out over Here--I Have a Few Scanners and Probably odds & Ends for Donation

I,ll Keep The Shtfli Team Notified with a List of what i.m Giving to the Club

Take Care for Now---Tony ipfd320  (wqtk-711)

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Joe AC2NF on September 13, 2014, 09:23:41 pm

Room for water tanks or a good water filter?

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: T.j. on September 13, 2014, 09:46:40 pm

Hea Joe. I would love to install a filtration system. Got any ideas? For now I got a poland spring dispenser if need be.

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: ipfd320 on September 13, 2014, 09:55:36 pm

I Have 5 Empty Water Jugs for the Taking---Let me Know or there Going Out in the Recycle Bin

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: T.j. on September 13, 2014, 10:16:15 pm

I now keep enough 5 gallon Poland sprint bottles at my house to hydrate a small village for a few days lol

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Kevin WQRE722 on September 13, 2014, 10:18:10 pm

Quote from: T.j. on September 13, 2014, 10:16:15 pm

I now keep enough 5 gallon Poland sprint bottles at my house to hydrate a small village for a few days lol

lol

i have a pool with 12,000 gallons in it all i need is a good filtration system. and to think my wife thinks we got it got to swim in. she has no idea.

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Joey 810 on September 13, 2014, 10:40:13 pm

Quote from: Tony--ipfd320 on September 13, 2014, 09:55:36 pm

I Have 5 Empty Water Jugs for the Taking---Let me Know or there Going Out in the Recycle Bin

How big are the jugs? Gallons?

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Kevin WQRE722 on September 13, 2014, 10:57:08 pm

Quote from: Joey WQSY810 on September 13, 2014, 10:40:13 pm

Quote from: Tony--ipfd320 on September 13, 2014, 09:55:36 pm

I Have 5 Empty Water Jugs for the Taking---Let me Know or there Going Out in the Recycle Bin

How big are the jugs? Gallons?

lol the first thing that comes to mind when i hear the word jugs

so tell us are the jugs big or small tony

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: allen WQTD895 on September 14, 2014, 07:24:35 am

I hope their BIG  lol   ;D ;D

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Kevin WQRE722 on September 14, 2014, 10:11:54 am

Still waiting semi patiently

Title: Re: Items Needed for DRV
Post by: Joe AC2NF on September 14, 2014, 05:59:30 pm

I have a Katadyn filter in my setup. However, maybe you could fit some blue food grade or water containers under a makeshift seat?